Should we argue about Live Action?

John McNichol, whose opinions I respect immensely, says lay off the criticism.  Peter Kreeft, not exactly a lightweight in the catholic moral thinking department, says you have to be pretty stupid not to recognize that what Live Action did was okay.  Francis Beckwith argues that while all lying is wrong, not all falsehoods are lies, as not all killing is murder.  Rahab is becoming a household name in the process.

I think Beckwith is on to the pivotal question.  But I don’t think the answer is obvious, and I think the firestorm in the catholic blogosphere is Exhibit A in proving my point.  When a whole host of professional catholics — intelligent, educated people who are in the business of explaining the catholic faith in their various ways —  cannot agree on a question, that tells me the answer is not yet clearly defined by the church.  And for that reason, it deserves debate.

Exhibit B is the stunning silence of the Catechism.  The church has managed to figure out two things for certain:

1) Lying is wrong.

2) You don’t have to tell everybody everything.

And that’s it.  Take a look at, say, murder or contraception, and you get lots of in’s and out’s.  This _____ is sinful, this ______ is not.   This ______ is horribly tempting but you mustn’t do it no matter what, even though you really really want to and we understand that it isn’t easy to resist.  The church is quite good about knowing all the crazy stuff we’ll think up, and heading off at the pass as many scenarios as possible.

–> It is no secret that people wonder how to handle all the situations where you might reasonably think lying is a legitimate solution.  And yet the church provides astonishingly little guidance.  The 8th commandment is apparently just not that well understood.

Which is par for the course.   Our understanding of the moral life develops over time.   Meanwhile, we argue.

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There are a few arguments being thrown around though, that I think are a distraction.

You just know what the right thing to do is. This is Kreeft’s argugment, and an awful lot of people were no doubt thrilled to hear him say it.  I don’t think it holds.   In the face of tremendous danger in extreme situations (literally: the Nazi scenario), sincere Christians have followed their intuition and come to different answers.  Intuition is helpful, yes.  But firm moral principles are developed by starting with intuition, and seeing where it leads.  Not by sitting in the starting gate.

Lying is the only workable solution in certain situations. This is an argument about tactics.   Well, we can have a debate about tactics, but only after we know which are admissible and which are not.  If we know that lying is acceptable in ______ situation, we can proceed to the discussion of whether or not to use that particular tool.  Should I run or stand and fight?  It’s a discussion I can only have once I know that both running and fighting are legitimate choices.

Bible Heroes and Great Saints did it. People who don’t read the Bible talk about what a great collection of moral tales it contains.  So when I first started reading it, I was very confused.  Here’s what: Biography is not morality.  Biography tells me who did what.  It does not tell me whether everything my heroes ever did was in fact morally sound. Including the way they foiled the enemy this time or that.  We canonize saints without thereby proclaiming that their every action was objectively sinless.

But if you didn’t lie, horrible things would happen. I think this is where Beckwith and Tollefsen (who disagree with one another) are on the right track.  There are situations in the moral life where the only moral choice is the “no-win” — the one with disastrous consequences.  Is lying like apostasy?  Must we tell the truth at all cost, the way we must be willing to witness to Christ at all cost?  Or is lying like killing, where there are situations where it is an acceptable option?

–> The fact that horrible things will likely happen if you don’t lie, does not prove that lying is permitted.  (It does drastically lessen any potential culpability.)

[Kreeft agrees, by the way, that there are certain situations in which you must permit horrible things to happen to the people you ought to be protecting, because apostasy is worse than allowing that horrible suffering.  He doesn’t think lying ranks with apostasy.]

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I was pretty happy with the Live Action videos when I saw them.  Horrified by what they uncovered, and thrilled that Live Action had the courage and cleverness to bring to light the evil going on.  It did not occur to me to question the methods — seemed, as many are saying, like a variation on the police tactics that catholics have not been questioning.  (Again, the silence of the Catechism is deafening.  And for my own part, in the ‘legitimate authority’ debate, when in doubt I tend to err on the side of giving rights to private citizens.)

And I agree with John McNichol that Lila Rose certainly doesn’t deserve to be singled out.  But I think this not only because, as JDM observes, she has more guts than all the internet critics combined, but also because it isn’t obvious that she’s doing anything wrong at all.  The church, it appears to me, is still way up in the air on this one.

And for that reason, I think we should argue.

6 thoughts on “Should we argue about Live Action?

  1. …Corrie Ten Boom & Crockett & Tubbs, folks. One’s real, the others weren’t. But neither drew the kind of ire from squakers in the Catholic media world that Lila did, when she succeeded where they did not. Wonder why?

    I say again (and none of them have answered): Why is it that Lila’s critics take on those who lie to save lives, waving & singling out paragraphs of the Catechism (and conveinently sidestepping others that dilute their point) like a Fundie preacher sticking to *THAT VERSE*, disrespecting those who disagree as heretics, etc., but *only* take on a pro-lifer who did good?

    Why won’t they address how much Corrie Ten Boom lied to save Jews in WWII? Or undercover cops who bust drug dealers? Is it that Lila is an easier target?

    They keep dodging, and I keep wondering when they are going to either a) address the point or b) find a way to top what Lila did.

    1. John, I think it’s just one of those moments that made people stop and ask the question.

      Why hasn’t the church given a clear yes or no on the topic before now? (Not on Live Action, but spying, undercover work, and lying to evil-doers). I expect because it is so much easier to examine other people’s lives than your own. We can see slavery for what it is clearly, because we aren’t wrapped up in a world built around it. Various types of lying, on the other hand, are so enmeshed in human habit, that who can step back and honestly evaluate?

      So Lila Rose has the distinction of being different enough in the when and the where, that she could draw attention to this blind spot in our moral knowledge.

      That’s all. I mean, I suppose there are obnoxious people carrying on about her for dumb reasons. (I don’t read them.) But I think there’s a sub-group of catholics that are just thinking, “Wait a minute – we don’t have a clear answer for this”, and she happens to be the person who brought to light more issues than she’d intended.

      And yes, I agree, you have to answer all or nothing. I suspect the reason no one will answer, is that they don’t really know the answer.

    1. Agreed. The moral searching has got to be in the service of the cause.

      The genuine grappling, I think is. But I’m with you on denouncing anyone who’s just carrying on in petty backstabbing. That is unequivocally evil. (And the catechism is quite clear on that application of #8.)

    1. Thanks for the link. Read it today, and I think he does pretty well.

      I take issue in point 9 with the charge that those defending Live Action are just looking for the least little loophole to justify lying. I don’t think that is so. I do expect a frustrating portion of Mark’s combox-folk have that attitude. But among the grown-ups who really care about the faith (such as my readers), I think the defense of L.A.’s undercover action is genuine and honest.

      But overall I think Mark Shea makes a decent case, under the circumstances.

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